Billy the Kid

Webmaster · Webmaster

This isn’t really a topic related to Billy the Kid, but since most viewers read this forum category, I will post what I have to say here (don't worry it's nothing bad). I have constructed a new discussion board. I have had problems with this forum and I’ve been getting frustrated with its limitations...

philamopolis · philamopolis

I'm hoping that someone who know's about Billy the Kid books can tell me wheather or not there good books to buy. I've been interested in Billy the Kid all my life I'm 20 now and just finally feeling a great ambition in learning all that I can of Billy the Kid. I don't have any books on him, that is why I'm aski...

philamopolis · philamopolis

Hey Marcelle I was wondering if you have any information of the following: Did The Kid smoke? (wheather it was regularly, or occasionaly, wheather it was cigars/cigarettes or even chewing tobaco) If so you know any brands, or how often he did this? Did the Kid ever play a sport? (ie: at the time bas...

philamopolis · philamopolis

Up to this point I haven't heard anything about Billy the Kid and Natives? Is there anything out there. Did he have any encounters, I don't know to much about when the Treaty's and Reservations came into effect in New Mexico? But is there any history between Billy and Natives, I once heard he had a few Nat...

philamopolis · philamopolis

With all this talk on the board about another Billy the Kid movie, I don't know if its realistic at this time, as I see it, both Young Guns are still pretty known and popular, and for that another Billy the Kid movie at this time may take away from the new movie if they ever make one soon. As for when they do dec...

Andygal · Andygal

Hey, I'm new here and I had a question: Were all of The Kid's victims in self defense? Thanks! ~Andy

rjstahl · rjstahl

What was the brand name, type and caliber of the pistol that Garrett used to shoot Billy? Please cite reference or source of the information. Bob

philamopolis · philamopolis

Can anybody give Billy's encounters with women chronically, like did he have relationships with any? Was he frequent with whores? Anything, thanks.

Billy Bonez · Billy Bonez

Is it true someone is looking for a screen writer to write a new more historically accurate BTK movie?

chris246 · chris246

i have a question? hopefully you can help. who first called billy the "desperado of the southwest" i think that it is garretty but i am not for sure i havent seen it written in stone. if you know will you please tell me and also tell me where you found it at. thank you, chris

halfgryphon · halfgryphon

I'm researching the title of Pat Garrets book. More specifically I'm looking to confirm that was the first time Billy the Kid was referred to as "the noted desperado of the southwest" Furthermore are there any credits to upson for ghostwriting? Is there any confirmation that Pat Garrett titl...

Tiger Lilly · Tiger Lilly

Hey there! im a newbie, and I understand that BTK liked to sing and dance, does anybody know which songs he sang or indeed which dances he danced. If you can thanx a bunch!

CCOD · CCOD

I saw a web site the other day that mentioned something about a Michael McCarty that died in the military in 1863 in Indiana and it suggested that this may possibly have been Billy's real father. They said that Billy, his brother, and mother were in Indiana at this same time. This was the first that I had h...

JettRink · JettRink

I wondered if this gun was in a museum someplace as I don't want to miss anything when I come to New Mexico and also any guns that Billy owned, are any in museums?

Cyan · Cyan

The birthdate of Billy has long been a matter of great interest and debate. One clue that might bring us closer to his actual birthdate can be found in the 26 July 1881 edition of the Fort Wayne Daily Gazette (Indiana). It is claimed in this newspaper account that Billy was 20 years and 10 months ol...

philamopolis · philamopolis

I got to see The Kid's documentry on the Young Guns dvd, I also heard there was a thing on him in the 90's on Unsloved Mysteries (about Brushy vs. Billy etc.) Anyone have any info on that one, what year it came out and what was said? I also mist the 1 hr. documentry on Discovery earlier this year. Can anyone de...

Webmaster · Webmaster

Just to let you all know, I've just constructed a Billy the Kid Survey. It's on my newly renamed Quiz & Survey web page. Also, in case no one noticed, on my Billy the Kid Bulletin Board, I announced that I put a link to a Young Guns Trivia from Funtrivia.com on my Young Guns web page. Check...

JettRink · JettRink

I don't know if anyone saw this show or not. It was interesting that they quoted Garrett's book about not knowing where the gun came from that he used to escape jail. I would doubt that he could actually get the door open where the guns were kept. And what happened to this gun? Then later on in the pro...

texas_outlaw · texas_outlaw

I was at Ebay, and found a picture of Billy and Pat. To take a look at the picture go to: http://groups.msn.com/WildWestBandits I wonder if it is authentic?

texas_outlaw · texas_outlaw

I'm reading a book about Billy the Kid's life. (Yet another one) and I couldn't help wondering what about the women in Billy's life. The book mentioned only 3, but the way people talked it seems like he had a girlfriend in every town. I was wondering what happened to them? It's just a thou...

Webmaster · Webmaster

When Billy the Kid’s mother, Catherine Antrim, died in 1874 her obituary had stated her age as 45 at the time of death, which means she was born around 1829. This then means Catherine was about 14 years her last husband’s senior and she was in her early 30s when her sons were born. Both the ab...

robert1953 · robert1953

While searching the net for books on Mrs. Kid's wee boy Billy, I came across the following site where I managed to purchase Utley, Garrett & W.N.Burns, all for under £20 (in reasonable condition) the American prices are even cheaper but postage can be a killer, much the same as Mrs Ki...

robert1953 · robert1953

I'm sure that I read somewhere that it was only relativley recently that someone picked up on the fact that the Kid's authenticated Photograph was reversed and that he was, in fact, right handed. I am a tad surprised to read the following from uncle Pat's version of events pertaining to the demi...

JayPo · JayPo

I just read the AP article from the link on the Bulletin Board. It raises some interesting questions about the death of Billy and the shooting of J. Bell. But the coolest thing I read is that they have the bench that is believed to have had Billy's body laid out upon it and found traces of bloo...

theKID · theKID

Has anyone noticed Billy's shirt? It seems to have an anchor on it... Why do ya'll think he would have an anchor on his shirt?

Elizabeth · Elizabeth

Around the 1970s, a man named Bob Dylan wrote a song for Billy called "Knocking on Heaven's Door." A remake of this song was made by Guns 'n Roses for one of the Lethal Weapon movies. When I heard the song, it really touched me. I almost wanted to cry. I was just wondering if anyone else had heard "Knockin...

Krewlty · Krewlty

Just to help update your film section. Billy the Bandit was directed by John Steppling, and starred Billy Mason. Billy the Kid (1911) was directed by Laurence Trimble. Hope this helps you out.

robert1953 · robert1953

Folks, The only "authentic" photograph of the Kid, the one where he is standing with rifle & pistol in hand (looking, if I may say so, most handsome) Brownie points gained, methinks!! Why is this pic accepted as true? Did the photographer sign the provenance? Did Billy? I have n...

Quetzecoatl · Quetzecoatl

I grew up in New Mexico and was fed all the rhetoric in history class about how Pat Garrett killed Billy the Kid. (Pat Garrett's daughter wrote the New Mexico State Song, "Oh Fair New Mexico"). From history class, BTK supposedly heard Pat Garrett and called out, "?Quien es?". Garrett then shot him...

Blues · Blues

I still do not understand why (almost) ALL the movie makers take actors that are 'bout at least 30 of age. What in gods name do those holywood bobbos not understand at the word: KID?!?! Now don't be braggin' 'bout young guns I know they took a young guy but he's everything expect Billy like

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	Announcement –forum members please read! (closed) (Preview) This isn’t really a topic related to Billy the Kid, but since most viewers read this forum category, I will post what I have to say here (don't worry it's nothing bad). I have constructed a new discussion board. I have had problems with this forum and I’ve been getting frustrated with its limitations...	Webmaster	6	5187	Sep 6, 2004 by Webmaster
	Billy the Kid Books (closed) (Preview) I'm hoping that someone who know's about Billy the Kid books can tell me wheather or not there good books to buy. I've been interested in Billy the Kid all my life I'm 20 now and just finally feeling a great ambition in learning all that I can of Billy the Kid. I don't have any books on him, that is why I'm aski...	philamopolis	17	4241	Sep 5, 2004 by Webmaster
	Billy the Kid Stuff! (closed) (Preview) Hey Marcelle I was wondering if you have any information of the following: Did The Kid smoke? (wheather it was regularly, or occasionaly, wheather it was cigars/cigarettes or even chewing tobaco) If so you know any brands, or how often he did this? Did the Kid ever play a sport? (ie: at the time bas...	philamopolis	10	15311	Sep 5, 2004 by Webmaster
	Billy the Kid & Native Americans (closed) (Preview) Up to this point I haven't heard anything about Billy the Kid and Natives? Is there anything out there. Did he have any encounters, I don't know to much about when the Treaty's and Reservations came into effect in New Mexico? But is there any history between Billy and Natives, I once heard he had a few Nat...	philamopolis	5	8067	Sep 5, 2004 by philamopolis
	Young Guns Another Post (closed) (Preview) With all this talk on the board about another Billy the Kid movie, I don't know if its realistic at this time, as I see it, both Young Guns are still pretty known and popular, and for that another Billy the Kid movie at this time may take away from the new movie if they ever make one soon. As for when they do dec...	philamopolis	0	2164	Sep 4, 2004 by philamopolis
	All in self defense? (closed) (Preview) Hey, I'm new here and I had a question: Were all of The Kid's victims in self defense? Thanks! ~Andy	Andygal	2	2510	Sep 4, 2004 by Andygal
	Garrett's Pistol (closed) (Preview) What was the brand name, type and caliber of the pistol that Garrett used to shoot Billy? Please cite reference or source of the information. Bob	rjstahl	1	2090	Sep 4, 2004 by Webmaster
	Billy the Kid's Women (closed) (Preview) Can anybody give Billy's encounters with women chronically, like did he have relationships with any? Was he frequent with whores? Anything, thanks.	philamopolis	4	3830	Sep 3, 2004 by philamopolis
	Billy The Kid movie??? (closed) (Preview) Is it true someone is looking for a screen writer to write a new more historically accurate BTK movie?	Billy Bonez	9	3058	Sep 3, 2004 by robert1953
	nickcames (closed) (Preview) i have a question? hopefully you can help. who first called billy the "desperado of the southwest" i think that it is garretty but i am not for sure i havent seen it written in stone. if you know will you please tell me and also tell me where you found it at. thank you, chris	chris246	2	2381	Aug 31, 2004 by CCOD
	Title of Pat Garretts Book (closed) (Preview) I'm researching the title of Pat Garrets book. More specifically I'm looking to confirm that was the first time Billy the Kid was referred to as "the noted desperado of the southwest" Furthermore are there any credits to upson for ghostwriting? Is there any confirmation that Pat Garrett titl...	halfgryphon	0	2302	Aug 30, 2004 by halfgryphon
	Song and Dance (closed) (Preview) Hey there! im a newbie, and I understand that BTK liked to sing and dance, does anybody know which songs he sang or indeed which dances he danced. If you can thanx a bunch!	Tiger Lilly	2	2028	Aug 30, 2004 by Tiger Lilly
	Billy's Father ( 1 2 ) (closed) (Preview) I saw a web site the other day that mentioned something about a Michael McCarty that died in the military in 1863 in Indiana and it suggested that this may possibly have been Billy's real father. They said that Billy, his brother, and mother were in Indiana at this same time. This was the first that I had h...	CCOD	48	18866	Aug 30, 2004 by Webmaster
	Olinger's Shotgun (closed) (Preview) I wondered if this gun was in a museum someplace as I don't want to miss anything when I come to New Mexico and also any guns that Billy owned, are any in museums?	JettRink	1	3196	Aug 28, 2004 by Webmaster
	Billy's Birthdate (closed) (Preview) The birthdate of Billy has long been a matter of great interest and debate. One clue that might bring us closer to his actual birthdate can be found in the 26 July 1881 edition of the Fort Wayne Daily Gazette (Indiana). It is claimed in this newspaper account that Billy was 20 years and 10 months ol...	Cyan	1	1968	Aug 26, 2004 by Webmaster
	Billy the Kid Documentry (closed) (Preview) I got to see The Kid's documentry on the Young Guns dvd, I also heard there was a thing on him in the 90's on Unsloved Mysteries (about Brushy vs. Billy etc.) Anyone have any info on that one, what year it came out and what was said? I also mist the 1 hr. documentry on Discovery earlier this year. Can anyone de...	philamopolis	4	4662	Aug 25, 2004 by Elizabeth
	Billy the Kid Survey & Young Guns Trivia (closed) (Preview) Just to let you all know, I've just constructed a Billy the Kid Survey. It's on my newly renamed Quiz & Survey web page. Also, in case no one noticed, on my Billy the Kid Bulletin Board, I announced that I put a link to a Young Guns Trivia from Funtrivia.com on my Young Guns web page. Check...	Webmaster	3	2533	Aug 25, 2004 by JettRink
	High Tech Guns on HC (closed) (Preview) I don't know if anyone saw this show or not. It was interesting that they quoted Garrett's book about not knowing where the gun came from that he used to escape jail. I would doubt that he could actually get the door open where the guns were kept. And what happened to this gun? Then later on in the pro...	JettRink	3	2036	Aug 16, 2004 by Webmaster
	Picture of Billy...... (closed) (Preview) I was at Ebay, and found a picture of Billy and Pat. To take a look at the picture go to: http://groups.msn.com/WildWestBandits I wonder if it is authentic?	texas_outlaw	18	4368	Aug 16, 2004 by JettRink
	Women In Billy's Life (closed) (Preview) I'm reading a book about Billy the Kid's life. (Yet another one) and I couldn't help wondering what about the women in Billy's life. The book mentioned only 3, but the way people talked it seems like he had a girlfriend in every town. I was wondering what happened to them? It's just a thou...	texas_outlaw	7	7939	Aug 10, 2004 by Cyan
	Questioning Catherine Antrim's age (closed) (Preview) When Billy the Kid’s mother, Catherine Antrim, died in 1874 her obituary had stated her age as 45 at the time of death, which means she was born around 1829. This then means Catherine was about 14 years her last husband’s senior and she was in her early 30s when her sons were born. Both the ab...	Webmaster	2	2427	Aug 7, 2004 by robert1953
	Here's Booking at you Kid (closed) (Preview) While searching the net for books on Mrs. Kid's wee boy Billy, I came across the following site where I managed to purchase Utley, Garrett & W.N.Burns, all for under £20 (in reasonable condition) the American prices are even cheaper but postage can be a killer, much the same as Mrs Ki...	robert1953	1	1945	Aug 7, 2004 by Webmaster
	Not Capt. Hook, Praise the Lord! (closed) (Preview) I'm sure that I read somewhere that it was only relativley recently that someone picked up on the fact that the Kid's authenticated Photograph was reversed and that he was, in fact, right handed. I am a tad surprised to read the following from uncle Pat's version of events pertaining to the demi...	robert1953	0	1753	Aug 3, 2004 by robert1953
	New Findings in BTK Case (closed) (Preview) I just read the AP article from the link on the Bulletin Board. It raises some interesting questions about the death of Billy and the shooting of J. Bell. But the coolest thing I read is that they have the bench that is believed to have had Billy's body laid out upon it and found traces of bloo...	JayPo	1	9495	Aug 3, 2004 by Webmaster
	Anchors Away....... (closed) (Preview) Has anyone noticed Billy's shirt? It seems to have an anchor on it... Why do ya'll think he would have an anchor on his shirt?	theKID	5	2409	Jul 30, 2004 by robert1953
	"Knocking on Heaven's Door" ( 1 2 ) (closed) (Preview) Around the 1970s, a man named Bob Dylan wrote a song for Billy called "Knocking on Heaven's Door." A remake of this song was made by Guns 'n Roses for one of the Lethal Weapon movies. When I heard the song, it really touched me. I almost wanted to cry. I was just wondering if anyone else had heard "Knockin...	Elizabeth	30	9320	Jul 30, 2004 by robert1953
	Filmography (closed) (Preview) Just to help update your film section. Billy the Bandit was directed by John Steppling, and starred Billy Mason. Billy the Kid (1911) was directed by Laurence Trimble. Hope this helps you out.	Krewlty	2	1798	Jul 29, 2004 by JettRink
	Photographic Evidence (closed) (Preview) Folks, The only "authentic" photograph of the Kid, the one where he is standing with rifle & pistol in hand (looking, if I may say so, most handsome) Brownie points gained, methinks!! Why is this pic accepted as true? Did the photographer sign the provenance? Did Billy? I have n...	robert1953	19	3888	Jul 28, 2004 by texas_outlaw
	Question About How Garrett Killed BTK (closed) (Preview) I grew up in New Mexico and was fed all the rhetoric in history class about how Pat Garrett killed Billy the Kid. (Pat Garrett's daughter wrote the New Mexico State Song, "Oh Fair New Mexico"). From history class, BTK supposedly heard Pat Garrett and called out, "?Quien es?". Garrett then shot him...	Quetzecoatl	11	4441	Jul 28, 2004 by texas_outlaw
	Old guys... (closed) (Preview) I still do not understand why (almost) ALL the movie makers take actors that are 'bout at least 30 of age. What in gods name do those holywood bobbos not understand at the word: KID?!?! Now don't be braggin' 'bout young guns I know they took a young guy but he's everything expect Billy like	Blues	0	1541	Jul 27, 2004 by Blues
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